The New Schlemiel

Mr. “There is only one President” Barack Hussein Obama has certainly been a very busy man. The rest of us can only anticipate the thrashing that our life savings will take, as we will again witness ANOTHER “New Deal”, only this time it has been ushered in under the comical ruse of “change”. Speaking of another “ANOTHER”, looking at the lineup that he has already assembled, it would appear that Hillary Clinton won the Presidency. The fledgling Obama administration looks an awful lot like ANOTHER Clinton administration, the one from about ten years ago..

The charade of “change” hasn’t stopped there. The “impartial” media is still working on “Shamalot”, as Michelle O. begins the magical transformation to Jackie O. That masquerade isn’t as detrimental to the country as the resurrection of FDR’s New Deal, soon to be implemented by 2008’s “New Schlemiel”..

As a primer, Obama yesterday reiterated that he plans “tax cuts for a vast majority of Americans paid for by the nations wealthiest”.. He expects them to make “larger contributions”..

He also said, “It is important if we are going to pay for some of these expenditures that are absolutely necessary to get our economy back on track that those who are in a position to pay a little more do so..” What is important to note is the necessity for a “firm definition” of the word “we” in all of this redistributionist rabble.. With the drafting of “Team Clinton”, the definition of even the simplest of words like “is” and apparently now “we”, should be a concern for the future victims of the Clinton/Obama revenue grab and the next series of Grand Juries..

As we look painfully towards tomorrows “New Deal”, we have to immediately notice that the Democrats are digging deeply into their befouled bag of “usual suspects”. Are you telling me that the advocate for “change” couldn’t find anything other than old Clinton hands to fill his administration? As of this writing, we will again see John Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, Ron Klain, Lawrence Summers and of course, Hillary Rodham.. It’s still early in the game, a few calls to the probation and parole offices in the D.C. area might net a few more Clintonistas who need to fill their dance cards..

Up until this moment in time, the lemmings assembling the incoming amorphous Obama administration has managed to “think outside of the pox”, otherwise known as the Clinton administration, on only a few occasions. Fear not, even the few “non-Clintons” that have been tapped have an unblemished liberal provenance. Melody Barnes for example, fresh from a stint at the uber-leftist “Center for American Progress”, will lead Obama’s health care “reform”. Obama needed another confirmed leftist to take a crack at screwing up the nation’s health care system since the last one to try is now tasked with screwing up America’s international relations..

A brief look at the “Old New Deal” just might help to focus the victims of the impending blow that President “spread the wealth around” is planning to land upon the middle class through his “New and Improved Deal”.

The “Old New Deal” basically hinged upon “increased federal government control over the economy and money supply, intervention to control prices and agricultural production”. Please note the numerous references to “control” which is demanded by the liberals, even as far back as 1933..

During Roosevelt’s “first 100 days”, “Congress granted every ‘request’ Roosevelt asked..” With the liberals at the helm of both houses of Congress today, Obama clears that hurdle of political inconvenience as well.

Roosevelt began “running spending deficits in order to fund the numerous programs he created.” At first blush, Obama seems to lean heavily on the “tax everyone” theory in order to fund his income redistribution.

Roosevelt’s avalanche of acronyms contained some dangerous governmental interventions. The AAA, or the “Agricultural Adjustment Administration” had the specific goal of “forcing farm prices up.” This burden fell upon the backs of the middle class consumers. Historian Barry Cushman says that the public was “horrified” due to Roosevelt’s “policy of enforced scarcity”. Crops were intentionally destroyed. Livestock were systematically slaughtered. One has to wonder if Roosevelt got the idea from his buddy “Uncle Joe” who in 1932 inflicted the “Holodomor” or the “terror famine” upon the Ukraine..

In 1936, the Supreme Court declared the AAA “unconstitutional”. Their verdict read, “a statutory plan to regulate and control agricultural production (is) a matter beyond the powers delegated to the federal government..” Roosevelt then came up with the idea to “pack the court” in order to avoid this type of messiness in the future. Roosevelt “asked Congress to expand the number of justices on the Supreme Court so as to allow him to appoint members sympathetic to his ideas..” Congress balked at the plan in 1937, I cannot make the prediction of a similar outcome should the issue arise again in 2009.. This “packing” is just the logical extension of the megalomaniacal need to “control” everything that is now hardwired into today’s liberal DNA.

Roosevelt, with a keen eye poised to the future, along with Eleanor Roosevelt (Hillary I) and a number of other liberals demanded that blacks receive “at least 10% of welfare assistance payments”. This despicable work continued with Roosevelt and Harry Hopkins working “with several big city mayors to encourage the transition of black political organizations from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party from 1934-36, most notably in Chicago..” Fiscal conservative Lewis Douglas, the Director of Budget from 1933 to 1934, could stand the disgrace no longer and he resigned. Douglas noted and abhorred the “destructive psychological effects of making mendicants of self-respecting American citizens” that came from “relief programs”. (Note for the record that between 1926 and 1940, only the richest 3% paid any income tax..) Roosevelt holding to tried and true Democratic two faced traditions “did not support federal legislation to make lynching a federal crime and he did not oppose the poll tax.”

Harold L. Ickes, (father of Harold M. Ickes, Clinton White House lackey. Detecting a pattern?) Roosevelt stooge warned that, “Sixty Families”, as he called them, could create “big-business Fascist America”. This has to be one of the late thirties most pathetic cases of “political projection” as that was the avowed goal of the Roosevelt “New Dealers”. It was nothing more than Bush League class warfare.

The New Deal was nothing more than liberal deficit spending that began in 1933. Roosevelt said that, “it was up to the government to create an economic upturn..”

Economist Robert Higgs believes that the end of the Great Depression came as a result of “the relaxing of Federal control over American industries”, that it had nothing to do with the New Deal. The New Deal exacerbated the problem..

Just as Obama is “popular” with the today’s Europeans, Roosevelt was just as popular with a number of Europeans as well during his time. Mussolini in a 1933 essay, admiringly said that “America has a dictator..” The Nazi Party official newspaper (no it’s not the New York Times, that’s today’s..) “Volkischer Boebachter” routinely praised Roosevelt. He even received fan letters from Adolph Hitler, one saying, “The President’s successful battle against economic distress is being followed by the entire German people with interest and admiration..” With Roosevelt having a fan base like that, it’s no wonder that Obama went to Germany..

Even the most cursory of glances reveals the similarities between the “Old and New Deals”. But what is it that we really have with today’s Obama administration? This administration seems to be a bunch of recycled Clinton administration leftovers, just about the only ones that aren’t still serving jail time, one of which who had a father who played a Roosevelt stooge topped off with the watered down Socialism of Roosevelt’s New Deal.. “Change”, eh?

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93 responses to “The New Schlemiel

  1. History repeats itself again. You would think we would learn from the past. But what the hell…Obama already has a coin with his likeness, A documentary, is making decisions like the president should and its not Jan 20, 2009 yet. We have to be in heaven now, because we are sure going to hell as a nation

  2. You’re worried about the pounding your 401K is GOING to take? Good for you if you have much left in there to worry about.

    I for one am going to give the new guy the benefit of the doubt — just like I’ve done with every president Since Carter. Anything else is simply partisan and un-American.

  3. Couldn’t agree more.
    The news media kept scaring everyone (remember Obama saying the Republicans were going to “scare” everyone about him??) that voting for McCain was voting for a 3rd Bush term.
    Well, now we have a Clinton 3rd term.
    I don’t think its over though. The Clintonistas are plotting something.
    Everything is falling into place for Her Majesty to slide right onto her throne. If they can only get that pesky brat out of their way…

    I’m taking bets on how long it takes Michelle Obama to say “you white people”….

    Obama/Hitler:
    Neither are natives to the lands they became dictators over.
    Both are well educated, good speakers and motivational.
    Both wrote a book about their “struggles”.
    Both have been called arrogant, egotistical, and racially divisive.
    Both have questionable associations.
    Both promote nationalizing industries, banks, and private funds.
    Both created their own symbols.
    Both created their own “Youth Groups” (only thing missing with Obama’s is the matching brown shirts).

    I would be a little concerned about the coming “Gestapo”, but how can you actually physically “fear” a liberal??

    STITCH!

  4. Frankie,

    Learn from history?

    When it’s all about “change”, you make history as you go..

    Then you write it up the way that you like.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  5. Robb,

    I will watch and wait.

    I will be observant and I will note every miscue.

    Anything else would be partisan and un-American..

    “The new guy”.. with the same old liberals.

    Change..as in give me all of yours.

    Larry

  6. Stitch,

    Liberals armed with their “natural musk” are actually potent in close quarters combat.

    I had one guy try to stab me with his knitting needles..

    Just hold a cross up, they will dash away.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  7. yeah, I had a confrontation with one once, I flashed a job application in his face…..
    …he ran screaming…
    …calling me names…
    …like…Capitalist!! Capitalist!!

    STITCH!

  8. Robb, we don’t have to wait and see…
    history is littered with the ash heaps of socialist societies…. either destroyed by their own hands, or knocked down for the overzealous compulsive belief that everything is “free” – including the neighboring countries…

    Socialism does NOT work.

    STITCH!

  9. I am always amazed when society does not learn about history, and we all have to repeat it!!!!

  10. Socialism scares productives every where. Look at Venezuela. Cities voted agaisnt Chavez under heavy muscelled Red harassment. Them Socialist hate fair elections. Lying and misderections like calling opponents names which define themselves, and constantly crying wolf. Stability is their enemy.

  11. ROBB
    KEPT ME AWAKE LAST NIGHT
    benefit of the doubt
    Rev Wright
    Bill Ayers
    Tony Resko
    ACORN
    Clinging to guns and religion
    teach children spanish
    spread the wealth
    first time I’M proud of my country
    follow my muslim religion
    57 states
    over 100 present votes
    143 days in the Senate
    95% african american vote
    70% OF new mexico vote
    If this information doesn’t remove all doubt you are mesmerized by the Obama machine

    NEVER GIVE UP OR IN

  12. There is so much knee-jerk here, I’m guessing that few of you can even stand up straight.

    Get ahold of yourselves!

  13. Sorry Robb, I don’t agree with your comment about knee-jerk. I believe most of us here know enough about what is going on in this country to rightfully be concerned.

    I have found in my experience when I give someone the benefit of the doubt I have been burned more times than not. I’m generally an optimistic person at heart, but there are just too many negatives and questionable associations for me to be comfortable with Obama.

  14. Good stuff, as usual, Larry.

    My favorite saying, “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” (George Santayana) stands up here.

    When BHO started his campaign on change, I think what he actually meant was “CHARM”. It is my suspicion that he studied Clintoon [sic] and that he learned from him and how Clintoon was considered “charming” and how he was considered very charismatic.

    It was this that BHO employed to get people to support him, this that got BHO so popular, but it was ACORN’s fraud that got him elected. That, to me, says that it was not experience that they wanted; unless it was experience defrauding the system. Maybe that’s the kind of experience that those who voted for BHO support.

  15. Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

    There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!

    Documents that must be produced include;
    (a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
    (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
    (c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
    (d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
    (e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
    (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.

    It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.

    These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.

  16. With these folks… its just ssdd.

    History repeats and for those who don’t learn will perish. As America itself is poising for.

    Everyone tells me he will “lead” or I will go with ooze from the center, but I call BS on that.

    His picks are of the usual suspects, and the Clinton one seems horrendous and with no upside to him. He is weak and allowed them back in the door, just what the clintons want. The way the clintons “do business” she might have a running chance in 2012, instead of 2016.

    Anyways summed up, ssdd.

    Good one Larry, if you swung a bat as well as you wrote you could entertain our new president elect playing for the socialnils, excuse me, I mean nationals.

  17. My knowledge of Roosevelt’s economic policy regarding his “New Deal” runs along the side of my knowledge of WWI, not much. I love American history, it’s one of my passions, but love grew out of my own curiosity and started reading books loaned out from various libraries. The Revolutionary War and the Civil War, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, our founding fathers and Abe Lincoln are some of my favorites to read about and in the durability I’ve learned a great deal, and retained the knowledge from outside of the classroom.

    So, I’ve come to ponder what was I taught in my High School History class? I cannot honestly recall very much or at least I didn’t retain much from my high school history class. What I remember was my history teacher (Mr. Shankle) was dating my English teacher (Miss Farrell, which they eventually married before senior year. Amazing the more important stuff is gone but I remember two teachers’ names because they were dating. I have to credit Miss Farrell, who passed her love of literature and writing onto me. Prior to that it was boring. The first book she gave us to read was “Catcher in the Rye” which seemed so riveting to me at the time.

    What I remember from HS was the news that Gerald Ford lost the election and at an assembly our Principal told us that good things would come from the election of Jimmy Carter. Wherein the girls who were around me started to cry. Freshman year in HS and that’s about what I remember about it. Who would have thought that 13 or 14 year olds knew just how bad it would be for the Country that misanthrope known as Jimmy Carter tried like hell to destroy it?

    If you think it’s wise for me to read up on Roosevelt’s New Deal to see what will happen to our future, I will. From the sound of it, it doesn’t sound like fairy tales and moonbeams. What little knowledge that I did retain was the moment the United States entered WWII the depression ended, which was why Roosevelt entered us into the war. The Tennessee Valley Authority was a by product of Roosevelt’s new deal, which is a federally owned corporation in the United States created by Roosevelt’s congressional liberal friends. TVA is basically used to provide energy to a potion of the south, mostly Tennessee, northern Alabama and northwestern Georgia I think. That’s about the jest of my knowledge.

    Let me read up on the new deal via the internet and I’ll comment farther.

  18. hey keyfish dont worry, I emailed my representative (who is a boob) through that great website you mentioned and I got a crap response. Hawaii issued a statement certifying his birth certificate. I have never seen or heard about it, but they did.

    Nothing to worry about, move along.

    LOL

  19. blue state blues- RWG

    Excellent overview of the Shamalcade of Stars.

    Don’t forget Paul Volcker! Are you kidding me??
    Obama had skip over hundreds of smart financial types to ind this throwback to the Carter debacle. So, once again, “are you kidding me”???

    As for Mrs. B. O., Jackie O she is not. More like Dick Butkus with hair. I’m sorry. I don’t know what has come over me being so mean spirited these days.

  20. Hate to tell you Robb I am an unabashed partisan and will do everything in my power to block, delay, or deny barrys agenda of creeping subversion of a free society.

  21. Really TJFincham? Muslim? Ayers? I just don’t buy it.

    I’m more worried about Bush and his current insane dash into socialism. National banks, national insurance carriers, national car makers.

    Quick, for $25,000., does anyone here even know what socialism actually is?

    Mr Whosebone: hate on bro. enjoy!

  22. Eileen, Pick up “The Forgotten Man” by Amity Shlaes and “Liberal Fascism” by Jonah Goldberg. Both tell you a different story from the history books about the “New Deal” and it roots. Amity’s book tells of “forgotten taxpayers”, who footed the bill for the excesses proposed by FDR, and saw nearly nothing in return for those funds they lost. Similar to today’s taxpayers who will finance the layabouts and leeches at the Government’s trough with their hands out to capture more of the government welfare.

  23. It’s too bad that Conservatives are so civilized. Read the posts here and compare them to the rantings on dailykos and other looney left wing blogs. I kinda wish we would put aside our civilized demeanor and give the Left a touch of ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) and put up some billboards like the one I drive by every day “WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!”
    Nah, it won’t happen, no way we’ll become them.

  24. Sorry folks,Mrs BO looks like James Brown in drag. I can see her and Barry O being Soooo
    funky in the oval office “Poppa’s got a brand new bag”.

  25. Robb:

    “a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidding appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government.”

    Alexander Hamilton
    Federalist No.1
    October 27, 1787

  26. Darn it! I’m always misplaying my stocks. I could be a very wealthy man today if only I’d invested in air freshner.

    One can only wonder at the amount of Fre-Breeze used to marinate the Clintonista clan to dispell the smell of mothballs they’ve been closeted in all these years. Masking their “freshness” in order that Obama’s idea of “change” in a new direction, wouldn’t occur to the brain dead liberals that voted him in, that this lot was minted two decades ago.

    You would think that the somewhat aware leftys would say, ‘hey, wait a minute, I’ve seen these people before.’ Then I remember the short attention span disorder inherent to all liberals. Why I’ll bet you a good 30% of ’em could give you the name of the president- elect is.

    Roosevelt had one restriction that Obama doesn’t have to worry about. At the time of the New Deal there was the gold standard in backing up federal money. A government couldn’t print more money than the gold it had to back it up with. Roosevelt called on Americans to turn in their gold during the depression. He then raised the price of gold, paying the citizens back in making it a losing proposition.

    There is no gold standard now. The government can print money as it pleases but there is still a debt and it falls upon the taxpayer, not the government. The government creates no money, we do.

    It is only common sense and men much wiser than myself have said long before me, You cannot tax yourself into prosperity.

    Larry God bless you and everyone here, have a Happy Thanksgiving!

  27. http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/why-constitution-matters

    First, if Obama is not “a natural born Citizen” or has renounced such citizenship, he is simply not eligible for “the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). That being so, he cannot be “elected” by the voters, by the Electoral College, or by the House of Representatives (see Amendment XII). For neither the voters, nor the Electors, nor Members of the House can change the constitutional requirement, even by unanimous vote inter sese (see Article V). If, nonetheless, the voters, the Electors, or the Members of the House purport to “elect” Obama, he will be nothing but an usurper, because the Constitution defines him as such. And he can never become anything else, because an usurper cannot gain legitimacy if even all of the country aid, abets, accedes to, or acquiesces in his usurpation.

    Second, if Obama dares to take the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he will commit the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President, he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof! So, even if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court himself looks the other way and administers the “Oath or Affirmation,” Obama will derive no authority whatsoever from it.

    Third, his purported “Oath or Affirmation” being perjured from the beginning, Obama’s every subsequent act in the usurped “Office of President” will be a criminal offense under Title 18, United States Code, Section 242, which provides that:

    [w]hoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States * * * shall be fined * * * or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined * * * or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, * * *, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined * * * or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
    Plainly enough, every supposedly “official” act performed by an usurper in the President’s chair will be an act “under color of law” that necessarily and unavoidably “subjects [some] person * * * to the deprivation of [some] rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution * * * of the United States”—in the most general case, of the constitutional “right[ ]” to an eligible and duly elected individual serving as President, and the corresponding constitutional “immunit[y]” from subjection to an usurper pretending to be “the President.”

    Fourth, if he turns out to be nothing but an usurper acting in the guise of “the President,” Obama will not constitutionally be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States” (see Article II, Section 2, Clause 1). Therefore, he will be entitled to no obedience whatsoever from anyone in those forces. Indeed, for officers or men to follow any of his purported “orders” will constitute a serious breach of military discipline—and in extreme circumstances perhaps even “war crimes.” In addition, no one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch of the General Government will be required to put into effect any of Obama’s purported “proclamations,” “executive orders,” or “directives.”

    Fifth, as nothing but an usurper (if he becomes one), Obama will have no conceivable authority “to make Treaties”, or to “nominate, and * * * appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not * * * otherwise provided for [in the Constitution]” (Article II, Section 2, Clause 2). And therefore any “Treaties” or “nominat[ions], and * * * appoint[ments]” he purports to “make” will be void ab initio, no matter what the Senate does, because the Senate can neither authorize an usurper to take such actions in the first place, nor thereafter ratify them. One need not be a lawyer to foresee what further, perhaps irremediable, chaos must ensue if an usurper, even with “the Advice and Consent of the Senate”, unconstitutionally “appoint[s] * * * Judges of the Supreme Court” whose votes thereafter make up the majorities that wrongly decide critical “Cases” of constitutional law.

    Sixth, and perhaps most importantly, Congress can pass no law while an usurper pretends to occupy “the Office of President.” The Constitution provides that “[e]very Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States” (Article I, Section 7, Clause 2). Not to an usurper posturing as “the President of the United States,” but to the true and rightful President. If no such true and rightful President occupies the White House, no “Bill” will or can, “before it become a Law, be presented to [him].” If no “Bill” is so presented, no “Bill” will or can become a “Law.” And any purported “Law” that the usurper “approve[s]” and “sign[s],” or that Congress passes over the usurper’s “Objections,” will be a nullity. Thus, if Obama deceitfully “enters office” as an usurper, Congress will be rendered effectively impotent for as long as it acquiesces in his pretenses as “President.”

    Seventh, if Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,” Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4). In that case, some other public officials would have to arrest him—with physical force, if he would not go along quietly—in order to prevent him from continuing his imposture. Obviously, this could possibly lead to armed conflicts within the General Government itself, or among the States and the people.

    Eighth, even did something approaching civil war not eventuate from Obama’s hypothetical usurpation, if the Establishment allowed Obama to pretend to be “the President,” and the people acquiesced in that charade, just about everything that was done during his faux “tenure in office” by anyone connected with the Executive Branch of the General Government, and quite a bit done by the Legislative Branch and perhaps the Judicial Branch as well, would be arguably illegitimate and subject to being overturned when a constitutional President was finally installed in office. The potential for chaos, both domestically and internationally, arising out of this systemic uncertainty is breathtaking.

    The underlying problem will not be obviated if Obama, his partisans in the Democratic Party, and his cheerleaders and cover-up artists in the big media simply stonewall the issue of his (non)citizenship and contrive for him to win the Presidential election. The cat is already out of the bag and running all over the Internet. If he continues to dodge the issue, Obama will be dogged with this question every day of his purported “Presidency.” And inevitably the truth will out. For the issue is too simple, the evidence (or lack of it) too accessible. Either Obama can prove that he is “a natural born Citizen” who has not renounced his citizenship; or he cannot. And he will not be allowed to slip through with some doctored “birth certificate” generated long after the alleged fact. On a matter this important, Americans will demand that, before its authenticity is accepted, any supposed documentary evidence of that sort be subjected to reproducible forensic analyses conducted by reputable, independent investigators and laboratories above any suspicion of being influenced by or colluding with any public official, bureaucracy, political party, or other special-interest organization whatsoever.

    Berg v. Obama may very well end up in the Supreme Court. Yet that ought to be unnecessary. For Obama’s moral duty is to produce the evidence of his citizenship sua sponte et instanter. Otherwise, he will be personally responsible for all the consequences of his refusal to do so.

    Of course, if Obama knows that he is not “a natural born Citizen” who never renounced his American citizenship, then he also knows that he and his henchmen have perpetrated numerous election-related frauds throughout the country—the latest, still-ongoing one a colossal swindle targeting the American people as a whole. If that is the case, his refusal “to be a witness against himself” is perfectly explicable and even defensible on the grounds of the Fifth Amendment. Howsoever justified as a matter of criminal law, though, Obama’s silence and inaction will not obviate the necessity for him to prove his eligibility for “the Office of President.” The Constitution may permit him to “take the Fifth;” but it will not suffer him to employ that evasion as a means to …

  28. Why is this not being investigated more thoroughly?

    “Have you heard the radio interview on this link?

    http://www.freedommarch.org/FreedomMarch_Radio.html

    “Please listen to the Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes Legal Counsel Interview
    Gary Kreep, Esq. Interview PART 2 (last one at the bottom – below)

    “The radio host is saying that he has a friend who works at a title research company in Hawaii who HAS seen the Obama vault Birth Certificate – and it reads and states that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya. The statement is at about 17 minutes into the audio.

    “The host said they are trying to connect that person (his friend) with Gary Kreep one of the attorney for Dr. Alan Keyes case here in California to obtain an affidavit in writing.”
    November 22, 2008 8:26 PM
    Go to http://www.f2a.org/
    and click the “Hear Friday’s Program” link to hear more on the birth certificate issue.
    November 22, 2008 8:27 PM

  29. I feel like Bildad the Shuhite in the book of Job! I have so much to say, my mind is overflowing with words to say!
    Eileen, there is much you can read on the Internet to learn about FDR!
    1. He implemented every one of the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto during his tenure as President.
    2. He was told by Churchill on November 29, 1941 that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor shortly on a Sunday.
    3. Pravda, the Russian newspaper, called him the best US president Russia ever had.
    4. FDR corresponded with Stalin over 300 times.
    5. FDR confided to a friend that, if the USA citizens knew what he had done during his Presidency (overtly AND covertly), then they would impeach him and put him in prison for 999 years.
    6. I gave a speech at a Toastmasters-like meeting with ladies invited to hear it. I showed them that FDR put in place all the 10 planks mentioned above. One of the ladies, after all I said, wrote on her evaluation sheet, that “FDR was a nice man”! Some people think he was the best President we ever had–some people are so hard to convince them of the opposite (the WORST President–ever! Vincent MVNY, I hope you’re right!)
    7. Just Google on the specific phrase line at the “Advanced Search” link the sentence: FDR was a Communist (and read what comes up).
    8. The President and the Treasury of the Secretary are dictators in the USA. Google: 12 USC 95b. It is only one sentence long, and Congress doesn’t have the guts to repeal it! (I believe the dictionary defines “hereafter” as “future.”)
    9. You will probably have 14 “hits” come up when you do #8. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the link that says; “repeat the search with the omitted results included.” That way, you can click on two very important links that aren’t shown on the first Search page.
    10. To save Larry from having to go through the “Spam” stuff, I will list the non-duplicative links on that second search in an abbreviated manner, i.e., the URL somewhat before the extensions–.com, .net, and so forth here:
    a. http://www.barefootsworld (The most important one–A MUST READ!)
    b. http://home.absolute
    c. http://www.riceandassociates
    d. http://www.volconvo
    e. http://www.nesara
    f. http://www.weirdvideos
    g. http://www.uhuh
    h. http://www.freedomsite
    i. http://www.luisprada
    Note: Some of the links shown above do not show the prefix of “http” and “www.”
    10. Here is the text of 12 USC 95b:
    95(b) Ratification of acts of President and Secretary of Treasury under section 95a
    “The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by section 95a of this title, are approved and confirmed.”
    11. We, the People, are mere chattel (property–not human beings) to the Feds. You’ll understand why, after you read Barefoot Bob’s web page (#1 URL). That’s why the Personnel Department of companies was retitled “Human Resources”!
    12. The USA was officially declared bankrupt on March 9, 1933 when FDR explained that to the State governors (or their representatives–thankfully, the Texas governor never personally appeared!) that were commanded by FDR to appear then. Actually, the USA was in a bankruptcy status when the Federal Reserve was created a few days before Christmas in 1913(when most Senators and Congressmen were gone for the holidays), with an illegal vote, because there was not a sufficient number there to constitute a legal quorum to vote on the matter. (The “big boys” were very clever on the timing.) The USA was given a 20-year extension before it became official, i.e., 1913-1933.
    13. March 4, 1933 is the day FDR was inaugurated, I believe. Boy, Congress acted very quickly!
    14. When a President issues an emergency order (EO), it is published in the Federal Register. Congress has 30 days after that published date to override the President’s order, in order to invalidate it. If they don’t do so within that timeframe, then that order becomes LAW! To the best of my memory, not a single EO has ever been repudiated by Congress!
    Happy reading, everybody!
    Stay tuned.

  30. Sorry, Larry. I apologize. I didn’t think my incomplete URLs would be hyperlinked after I posted my comment. (Sigh) Next time I’ll just type the letters AFTER the “http” and the “www” for Google links. So much unnecessary work for you!

  31. blue state blues:
    “…Butkus with hair…” ???
    LMFAO !!!
    I was thinking she more resembled a smaller version of Michael Clark Duncan’s General Attar character in Planet of the Apes, but with longer hair (weave? whatever).

    Robb Ur(ine)
    We can’t shut down enough of our brains to think at your level.
    Straight from Wikipedia: “Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.”

    Sounds good on paper, however (for those of us who STUDIED history and LEARNED from it), it seems that those in power are always “more equal” than others.
    It seems that the “equality” they seek is always the lowest common denominator, except for themselves.
    In other words, if EVERYONE can’t have a car, then NO ONE can, Again, except for themselves.
    Are you really that fundamentally stupid??

    When liberals call Sarah Palin a cunt, that’s free speech.
    When conservatives point out Obama’s KNOWN associations, we’re “haters”.
    Again, Rubb Ur(ine), are you that fundamentally STUPID??

    Offering to pay off corporate debts is a bit different from socialistic state takeovers of those businesses.

    Step away from the kool-aid, Robb, and have a coke.

    Who said:
    “The spiralling incompetence of the Obama administration will stagger the imagination.”??

    STITCH!

  32. “Mrs BO looks like James Brown in drag”

    lol…I’ll never look at her the same way again…not that I want to look at her…

  33. Robb, Bush is not a good example of a ‘conservative’ but in his defense, he doesn’t have a lot of choices. I thought he did earlier but it’s worse than I ever imagined. But let us be very clear, what follows is how it began and how it grew – study and remember and please please, it had nothing to do with ‘deregulation’, nice try Tokyo-Pelosi but NO.:

    If you wonder why the economy is completely in the crapper right now, well here is a major if not ‘thee’ contributor to the problem. Nine years ago just the other day the New York Times issued this report.

    Let’s be clear, although the report gives some statistics about minorities, I’m not pointing this out as a racial issue. This is a credit worthiness issue. If you have the means to pay back a loan – you should be given one. If not, you should be denied. The reason this lending practice changed was pure and simple greed and some distored belief in some sort of socialistic thrashing that they wished to shoved down our throats — as if, we deserved this (why don’t these people do this themselves!!!!???) but there was this “…felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits, combined with here’s what’s “right” for you”

    They got caught up in the pre-Internet bubble growth around them, and everyone started grabbing for cash. Pathetic.

    September 30, 1999

    Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending

    By STEVEN A. HOLMES

    In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

    The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

    Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

    In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

    ”Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990’s by reducing down payment requirements,” said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae’s chairman and chief executive officer. ”Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.”

    Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.

    In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980’s.

    ”From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,” said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ”If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.”

    Under Fannie Mae’s pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 — a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.

    Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.

    Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites.
    Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990’s. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent.

    In contrast, the number of non-Hispanic whites who received loans for homes increased by 31.2 per cent.

    Despite these gains, home ownership rates for minorities continue to lag behind non-Hispanic whites, in part because blacks and Hispanics in particular tend to have on average worse credit ratings.

    In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers. Last year, 44 percent of the loans Fannie Mae purchased were from these groups.

    The change in policy also comes at the same time that HUD is investigating allegations of racial discrimination in the automated underwriting systems used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to determine the credit-worthiness of credit applicants.

  34. Robb,

    Knee jerk? If that’s the case, does “closet liberal” apply to you?

    Or should we just drop the “knee” for you..

    Larry

  35. LM,

    Thanks for the kind words.

    The left makes the whole “history” thing quite easy..

    The New Deal, The Great Society and now whatever the Obamazombies name his panacea of piffle..

    The Socialists may think that we are “knee jerk” but we refused to be gulled by their deceptions.

    That makes us bad people..GOOD.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  36. Midwest Mike,

    Thanks for the kind words.

    LOVE baseball, if you do as well, hunt up “Let’s Play Two” in the archives here.

    Not only will the Nationals be renamed, but an Obama statue will probably be erected outside of the stadium.

    “The Washington Socialists”..”The Washington Redistributors” “The Wshington Collectivists”..

    Good stuff my friend..

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  37. Robb,

    The insane dash has alot of emphasis from the Democrats but Bush the moderate is along for the ride.

    I’d give you the quick definition but I really don’t think that you would pay up, you don’t sound the type.

    It’s a combination of collectivism and egalitarianism. Class struggle, proletarian revolution..

    Larry

  38. Vincent,

    ODS…brilliant.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  39. Windrider,

    The gold standard, good point and well put as always.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  40. SEE ABOVE POST BY: Danno

    NORMA CAPPELLETTI: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Are Democrats’ Fault

    Ever since Nancy Pelosi was on TV informing the nation that the financial crisis our country faces was caused by the failed financial policies of the Bush administration, I have wondered — where is the outrage at this distortion of the truth?
    The following is a condensation of a series taken from the Investor’s Business Daily explaining “What Caused the Loan Crisis.”

    1977: President Carter signed the Community Reinvestment Act into law. The law pressured financial institutions to extend loans to those who would not otherwise qualify. The premise was that home ownership would improve poor and crime-ridden communities and neighborhoods in terms of crime, investments and jobs. Statistics bear out that it did not help.

    1992: Republican Rep. Jim Leach warned of the danger that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were changing from being agencies of the public to money machines for the principals and few stockholders.

    1993 to 1999: Clinton rewrote Fannie and Freddie, turning the quasi-private mortgage-funding firms into semi-nationalized monopolies dispensing cash and loans to large Democratic voting blocs and handing favors, jobs and contributions to political allies.
    Clinton unveiled his National Home-Ownership Strategy which broadened the CRA in ways Congress never intended. Rules were rewritten, which forced banks to satisfy quotas for sub-prime and minority loans to get a satisfactory CRA rating. Bypassing Republicans, Andrew Cuomo, secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Clinton, allowed Freddie and Fannie to get into the sub-prime market in a big way. Led by Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd, Congress eased capital limits for Fannie and Freddie.

    Banks poured billions in loans to poor communities, often requiring no money down and no verification of income. Worse still was the cronyism. Fannie and Freddie became home to mostly Clinton Democrats. A total of 384 politicians got big campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie. During the 1990s, Fannie and Freddie enjoyed a subsidy of $182 billion, most of it going to principals and shareholders, not poor borrowers as claimed

    1999 and 2000: Treasury Secretary Laurence Summers and Undersecretary Gary Gensler went to Congress and sought to remove Fannie and Freddie’s special status to no avail.

    “We manage our political risk with the same intensity that we manage our credit and interest rate risks,” Fannie CEO Franklin Raines, a former Clinton official and current Obama adviser, bragged to investors. Raines resigned but walked away with $90 million.

    “We think that the statements evidence contempt for the nation’s housing market,” Freddie spokesperson Sharon McHale said. It was the last chance during the Clinton administration for reform.

    2001: Republicans tried repeatedly to bring fiscal sanity to Fannie and Freddie, but Democrats blocked any attempt at reform, especially Frank and Dodd, who now run the key banking committees and were huge beneficiaries of campaign contributions from the mortgage giants.

    2003: Bush proposed what The New York Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.” Even after discovering a scheme by Fannie and Freddie to overstate earnings by $10.6 billion to boost their bonuses, the Democrats killed reform.

    2005: Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan warned Congress, “We are placing the total financial system at substantial risk.” Sen. McCain and two others sponsored a Fannie/Freddie reform bill and said, “If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole.” Sen. Reid accused the GOP of trying to “cripple the ability of Fannie and Freddie to carry out their mission of expanding home ownership.” The bill went nowhere.

    McCain has repeatedly called for reforming Fannie and Freddie. Bush urged reform 17 times. Still the media have repeated Democratic talking points about this being a “Republican” disaster. A few Republicans are complicit, but Fannie and Freddie were created by Democrats, regulated by Democrats, largely run by Democrats and protected by Democrats. That’s why taxpayers were asked for $700 billion – and growing.

  41. ROBB URY,

    Interesting that you have put all “your benefit of doubt in the new guy just like you did since Jimmy Carter.” Interesting in the way that Carter is the one that actually started the economic disaster that now is upon us. The Bill Carter “new guy” that put the “I feel your pain” finishing touches on the building of the escalation of the collapse in forcing unsound business practices.

    Benefit of the doubt my butt. The only knee jerking needed to be done here is straight in the groins of brainless liberals that promote this socialistic idealism. You may include yourself if you feel qualified, no offense intended, I know how you leftys hate that.

  42. harry a nelson

    Different catastrophe, same democrat response to the crisis, then someone who knows what should be done helps fix it….THE LAST CENTURION by JOHN RINGO….(fiction?)…maybe not….

  43. Danno,

    Stop making sense and stop providing PROOF..

    Too much for the liberal synapses..

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  44. Windrider,

    “Benefit of the doubt” means mindless lemming awaiting the abattoir..

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  45. I think in order to study Roosevelt’s “New Deal” I think I have looked at what caused it to be put into his policies, the Great Depression. Which was caused in part by the free living lifestyle of what is known as the “Roaring Twenties”? Their lifestyle of free spending caused the market to crash which marked the beginning of a decade of high unemployment, poverty, low profits, deflation and lost opportunities for economic stability. The loss of economic confidence in our economic future; which included the traditional explanation of a combination of high consumer debt, ill-regulated markets that permitted malfeasance by banks and investors, cutbacks in foreign trade, and growing wealth inequality, all interacting to create a downward economic spiral of reduced spending and production.

    Fairly similar to what’s happening now, minus the part about reduced spending. Our current Congress still wants to continue to spend, without any accountability. I think our founding fathers would call that reckless, don’t you? Of course according to Obama’s thinking their just a bunch of old white men who are out-of-touch with reality.

    From the sound of what I’m hearing and reading it appears Obama is creating his own “Brain Trust” as he gathers a group of experts from academic halls to be his advisers on the economy, which usually means they either read a book about the world economy or wrote one. Since living in the darken cellars of our elitist ivy league universities doesn’t remotely show the realities most Americans face every day; I don’t hold out for much hope that Obama and friends will “figure it out.” It appears after reviewing the old “New Deal” is looking more like the Obama new deal.

    Obama appears to be a quick study on the ins and outs of the Roosevelt administration. But Roosevelt did have more experience as he was Governor of the State of New York. Obama only spent 7 years in the Illinois Senate putting his name on Bills he didn’t participate in or wrote but garnered the credit. We all know his lackluster credentials in the US Senate. Roosevelt actually did work on budgets and laws while governor not just put his name on something and pretended to participate.

    Roosevelt’s rage was generally targeted at the bankers who used “unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion” so would that include Fannie and Freddie and their enablers? Of course in looking at our current situation. Fannie Mae is a product created during his administration, another democratic cover your ass moment.

    His implementation to help the farming community was a disaster for both the farmer as well as the consumer. Reduce the output and then demand grows as more products is needed. Having lived in farming communities my whole life the only group to benefit financially is always the middle man who generally is the one who sets the price and never passes it to the farmer, they generally keep it. The farmer gets nothing and the consumers is the one who ends up paying for the higher cost, because of the demand. This is the same principal that OPEC uses and it appears to be biting them in the ass now, as the price of gas here in Mobile is at an all-time low of $1.69 a gallon. They keep lowering the output but the demand is no longer at an all-time high.

    Like the consumption of milk is at an all-time low as prices for a gallon of milk is almost $5.00. Great plan there Frankie, prices that go to high, people stop using. Soy milk is very popular now, no change in the taste, last much longer and is a bit cheaper than the real stuff. Less fat and high in protein. A half gallon runs about $2.25. I use it for just about everything except in my coffee, which I don’t like the taste. He obviously didn’t take into account that when the product price gets too high, some innovate person will find a cheaper alternative to make and produce.

    His repeal of prohibition of the 18th Amendment allowed the public to taste the nectar again so as he steals from the public who’s paying for all these programs they might now be too drunk to know they don’t work, as he slaps sales taxes on the sale of all alcoholic beverages. And he has Congress create the 21st Amendment to repeal the 18th Amendment.

    None of this is very appealing as the Supreme Court’s rejections only gave him the incentive to get them passed by adding more Justices to the Court so he can still get his way and of course having a totally democratic majority in both the legislative branches gave him what he wanted. This move could happen again as the idiots at the helm have deemed themselves as god. Hallelujah, the secular progresses in Congress have found religion. Control all things, which is a major aspect of Socialist Government. Since they all passed their judgment wasn’t based on the Constitution because changing a word here and there does change the requirements to create laws or rulings, the Constitution is the Constitution any if a law was found unconstitutional it still remains unconstitutional.

    He is partly responsible for the start of unions as he demanded that hourly wages match the increase in product pricing. This created the Wagner Act in 1935; that protects the rights of most workers in the private sector to organize labor unions, to engage in collective bargaining and to take part in strikes. Which only shows why Pelosi and friends are trying so hard to convince us the automakers need to be bailed out, they are covering former bad decisions made by their “leader.” Are they arrogant enough to pass the Bill that saves their beloved union members know that Americans and the Republicans don’t want it and will block the passage? I’m thinking as with the Banking Bailout Bill they want some Republican names on there so if it goes awry then can still blame the Republicans and George Bush.

    What I’ve read so far about Obama’s “new deal” only shows it didn’t work with Roosevelt and now they want to continue to use it, go deeper into it, knowing ahead of time that it doesn’t work? Agh! I wonder if his socialist health care plan also covers mental health, anyone know?

  46. I think in order to study Roosevelt’s “New Deal” I think I have looked at what caused it to be put into his policies, the Great Depression. Which was caused in part by the free living lifestyle of what is known as the “Roaring Twenties”? Their lifestyle of free spending caused the market to crash which marked the beginning of a decade of high unemployment, poverty, low profits, deflation and lost opportunities for economic stability. The loss of economic confidence in our economic future; which included the traditional explanation of a combination of high consumer debt, ill-regulated markets that permitted malfeasance by banks and investors, cutbacks in foreign trade, and growing wealth inequality, all interacting to create a downward economic spiral of reduced spending and production.

    Fairly similar to what’s happening now, minus the part about reduced spending. Our current Congress still wants to continue to spend, without any accountability. I think our founding fathers would call that reckless, don’t you? Of course according to Obama’s thinking their just a bunch of old white men who are out-of-touch with reality.

    From the sound of what I’m hearing and reading it appears Obama is creating his own “Brain Trust” as he gathers a group of experts from academic halls to be his advisers on the economy, which usually means they either read a book about the world economy or wrote one. Since living in the darken cellars of our elitist ivy league universities doesn’t remotely show the realities most Americans face every day; I don’t hold out for much hope that Obama and friends will “figure it out.” It appears after reviewing the old “New Deal” is looking more like the Obama new deal.

    Obama appears to be a quick study on the ins and outs of the Roosevelt administration. But Roosevelt did have more experience as he was Governor of the State of New York. Obama only spent 7 years in the Illinois Senate putting his name on Bills he didn’t participate in or wrote but garnered the credit. We all know his lackluster credentials in the US Senate. Roosevelt actually did work on budgets and laws while governor not just put his name on something and pretended to participate.

    Roosevelt’s rage was generally targeted at the bankers who used “unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion” so would that include Fannie and Freddie and their enablers? Of course in looking at our current situation. Fannie Mae is a product created during his administration, another democratic cover your ass moment.

    His implementation to help the farming community was a disaster for both the farmer as well as the consumer. Reduce the output and then demand grows as more products is needed. Having lived in farming communities my whole life the only group to benefit financially is always the middle man who generally is the one who sets the price and never passes it to the farmer, they generally keep it. The farmer gets nothing and the consumers is the one who ends up paying for the higher cost, because of the demand. This is the same principal that OPEC uses and it appears to be biting them in the ass now, as the price of gas here in Mobile is at an all-time low of $1.69 a gallon. They keep lowering the output but the demand is no longer at an all-time high.

    Like the consumption of milk is at an all-time low as prices for a gallon of milk is almost $5.00. Great plan there Frankie, prices that go to high, people stop using. Soy milk is very popular now, no change in the taste, last much longer and is a bit cheaper than the real stuff. Less fat and high in protein. A half gallon runs about $2.25. I use it for just about everything except in my coffee, which I don’t like the taste. He obviously didn’t take into account that when the product price gets too high, some innovate person will find a cheaper alternative to make and produce.

    His repeal of prohibition of the 18th Amendment allowed the public to taste the nectar again so as he steals from the public who’s paying for all these programs they might now be too drunk to know they don’t work, as he slaps sales taxes on the sale of all alcoholic beverages. And he has Congress create the 21st Amendment to repeal the 18th Amendment.

    None of this is very appealing as the Supreme Court’s rejections only gave him the incentive to get them passed by adding more Justices to the Court so he can still get his way and of course having a totally democratic majority in both the legislative branches gave him what he wanted. This move could happen again as the idiots at the helm have deemed themselves as god. Hallelujah, the secular progresses in Congress have found religion. Control all things, which is a major aspect of Socialist Government. Since they all passed their judgment wasn’t based on the Constitution because changing a word here and there does change the requirements to create laws or rulings, the Constitution is the Constitution any if a law was found unconstitutional it still remains unconstitutional.

    He is partly responsible for the start of unions as he demanded that hourly wages match the increase in product pricing. This created the Wagner Act in 1935; that protects the rights of most workers in the private sector to organize labor unions, to engage in collective bargaining and to take part in strikes. Which only shows why Pelosi and friends are trying so hard to convince us the automakers need to be bailed out, they are covering former bad decisions made by their “leader.” Are they arrogant enough to pass the Bill that saves their beloved union members know that Americans and the Republicans don’t want it and will block the passage? I’m thinking as with the Banking Bailout Bill they want some Republican names on there so if it goes awry then can still blame the Republicans and George Bush.

    What I’ve read so far about Obama’s “new deal” only shows it didn’t work with Roosevelt and now they want to continue to use it, go deeper into it, knowing ahead of time that it doesn’t work? Agh! I wonder if his socialist health care plan also covers mental health, anyone know?

  47. ROBB: Here are a few dictionary definition sof Socialism…

    Randon House Unabridged
    1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
    3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

    American Heritage Dictionary
    1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
    2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

    Worldnet 3.0 by Princeton University
    1. a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
    2. an economic system based on state ownership of capital [ant: capitalism]

    Is that worth your 25 grand? Didn’t think so.

    See… even the dictionary equates Socialism with Marxism… and states that it is just an ‘imperfected state’ on the way to Communism. Just one more reality the loony left refuses to admit.

  48. Midwest Mike in Ohio

    Wow those definitions are ah correct! Well done.

  49. blue state blues- RWG

    The Democrats created the Community Reinvestment Act. They funnelled tons of cash through Freddie and Fannie and forced banks to provide 40% of their mortgage loans to lower income families at 100% financing, interest only loans with low teaser rates. With the likes of Barney Frank the Cherub, Henry Waxman the Phantom of the Opera, and Cris Prettyboy Dodd, they threw tax dollars at the banks and insisted that they make these high risk loans. Freddie and Fannie packaged up these gleaming gems of investment puke and sold them as Securities to investors. But not before AIG and other insurers stepped in and insured them (for a fee of course) against potential default. Fast forward to 2007 and this house of cards starts to collapse. So what do the Dems do? Well right after they blame the GOP and Bush for the potential failure of some banks because of the lack of regulation, they start to put the plan together to keep this ship of fools floating.

    They bail out AIG to cover the pay outs that they are making to investors who bought the mortgage securities and then then start bailing out the banks, Freddie and Fannie. And you can rest assured that, very soon, we are going to learn that we are making the mortgage payments for all those recipients of Community Reinvestment mortgages. And no one, and I mean no one, will take Barney’s swishy ass to task for creating the whole stinking mess.

  50. RWG,

    “Swishy”??

    Still laughin’..

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  51. OBAMA BIN LADEN YO’ MOMMA IS CALLEN’

  52. Larry,

    A bit of a typo. I mean’t new guy Bill Clinton instead of “Bill Carter.” I was a little PO’d at the time.

    Speaking of gold, Obama is waisting no time in “not looking like other presidents.” A late night TV ad selling gold coins will now bless us with the first Obama gold one dollar and gold Obama “Kennedy” half dollar. Being in the kitchen when I heard the ad, I was curious to see how Obama was protrayed to look “different.” I was thinking a KFC in the background, maybe cotton bales or possibly an incomplete birth certificate. But, no, the coins they were selling were painted. A big toothy grin of Obama’s likeness posed before a backgroud of blue and, if I remeber correctly, it seems like his “sign” was back there also. This was the same case on the “Kennedy” half dollar only a slighty different pose.
    I ordered some just to see if I could get the paint off without melting the gold………

  53. Windrider, Coffee flew out my nose over the KFC background remark.
    Bravo!
    Larry, Happy Thanks giving and thanks for giving.

  54. Windrider,

    Don’t sweat the typo..

    I call them “errors of enthusiasm”.

    Happens to me all of the time..

    Happy Thanksgiving to all of the NLTZ family.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  55. Donno,

    Right back at ‘ya.

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  56. I love it. “Hope and Change” has become Clinton Redux. If Obamabi becomes FDR or Adolf Hitler, Americans will finally get the reaming they’ve truely earned for wishing for this glorious Worker’s paradise that is coming. You asked for it, now you got it, America.

  57. God bless and happy Thanksgiving everyone! Thank you all for helping to keep me sane 😉

  58. Danno and Eileen: great points and food for thought. It never really is as simple as it seems, is it?

    I have never called Palin a cunt. Nor Hilary. Nor my lovely wife.
    Pelosi is a national embarrassment.
    Frank is indeed swishy, but who GAS?

    B(st)itch: I was wondering how long it would take someone here to call me names — as though doing so somehow mimics a thoughtful argument, or makes you clever. Well done. M(l)ary, I think you came in a little late. There. now I’m clever too.

    “Closet liberal”? Not a chance. I’m the real deal, AND: I supported McCain, own and use guns, am fiscally responsible (my credit rating is in the stratosphere -I didn’t even know until recently that scores got into the 900s).

    To everyone who cut and pasted Wiki or Heritage definitions: my aren’t you smart. I guess you know what socialism means now. But remember, when connecting socialism with Marxism, an identical-in-kind connection exists between capitalism and fascism.

    To all of the tough talking guys: please don’t hurt me!

    And finally, Larry, I know you’re not as lazy as your remarks suggest. Maybe you’re just a coward.

  59. Robb, I’m afraid you must be lost and find yourself at a conservative blog. Or you’re on some mission to turn some of us into enlightened liberals. You can rests assure no one here will suddenly switch sides. Most of us are lifers and we are already enlighten having already lived through the Carter and Clinton administrations and actually survived. You, my friend (I use that term lightly) will remain hopeless and/or have a bad case of Alzheimer’s. You have my sympathy either way.

    You obviously have chosen to watch and/or read the liberal, unbiased mainstream media and have swallowed their filth hook, line and sinker and truly believe you’re the enlightened one. You give yourself away by using the same terms that they are trying to feed to the American public. Clearly, you’ve chosen to align yourself with the hogwash they are trying to force feed on the public and the shame is you bit and also swallowed. Too bad you don’t have an eating disorder, like anorexic or bulimia so you can light the load of bull to flush down the toilet.

    You also must have been educated by the liberals; because you’ve also swallowed that Bush is a socialist, he’s never been labeled a conservative by any “real” conservative, but like his father, he’s a moderate Republican, but by any means is he a Socialist. So that means to me that you were educated by the touchy feely liberal school system or at one of their indoctrinated colleges or universities, which are long on bullshit and short on true facts.

    Do you even understand what socialism is? Let me give you those facts that your “teachers” choose not to give you. It will be quick but probably painful for you. It’s a social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society. What is egalitarian society? It’s everyone is equal, what you have I should also have. The problem is those who create these societies want everyone else to live like that, but they themselves shouldn’t, they should live above them, their called social elites.

    They are a special bred, enlightened and far superior to the common folks; they shouldn’t have to live like them, they are above it all. Think of them as citizens of Malibu, who every now and then they venture outside the walls of Malibu to see how the other half lives. The common folk are driving Honda’s and Toyota’s instead of Lexis and Mercedes. They live in houses that are between 1,100 square feet to 3,500 square feet that have 2 to 4 bathrooms and 3 to 5 bedrooms. They consider it slumming if their home is under 8,000 square feet, and less than 6 bathrooms and 7 bedrooms. We don’t have hired help; some of us are the help. There is no shame in working hard; in fact many are proud to work hard, while those elitist who live in Malibu complain about having to open the car door, for fear of breaking a nail. Why I’m using the comparison to the common folk to the Hollywood stars who live in Malibu, Beverly Hills or Bel Aire and elsewhere to show you why so many of the elites were supporting Barack Obama, believe me if they thought for one second they would be forced to give up their lifestyle or give up their plush millionaire homes or Mercedes, they wouldn’t have been so supportive, they do understand what socialism is and they would still be a member in full standing in the Hollywood Elite Club.
    These people hire illegal aliens to clean their Olympic size swimming pools, drive their cars, clean their homes and they call themselves humanitarians for taking advantage of the poor. But, should one of the illegals becomes legal and well off; they’ll be the first complaining about their new neighbor. I’ve seen they way they live and found them to be some of the biggest hypocrites on this planet. You can include most of the press in the elite category as well; they really do believe they are superior to you and I. For Christ sake they not only covered Obama’s campaign rhetoric they openly campaigned for him and called it news.

    But if you try to take an elite’s things and they will be the first to whine about their hardships. Obama is letting them keep their things, so they are happy and since most hold their money in off-shore accounts, Uncle Sam isn’t getting his fair share and Obama won’t force them to ante up so he can spread their wealth. He needs them all to promote his agenda to the American public by telling us how great life is.

    Robb, look at other socialist countries and see how they live, does it look anything like the spreading of wealth? Socialist Countries have some of the worst poverty on this planet, the reason being is the wealth can’t get pass the dictator’s grip. They like the power, control and their own greed, they don’t ever want to lose what they feel they are entitled too. Venezuela is considered a Socialist Country as well as a communist one. Hugo Chavez is their country’s leaders, he lives a splendid lifestyle while those who live under him are poor, uneducated so when he does eventually throw them a crumb they are grateful for the crumb. He seems to enjoy the ambiguity and uncertainty he sees in the eyes of his citizens of his Country and it only makes him smile more.

    So if you think that that is the way we’ve lived for the least 8 years as having George W. Bush as our President, you a bigger ass than I thought.

  60. Robb, I don’t understand why those of us who are defending our opinions is name calling because you yourself are mocking and calling other poster names. And, your calling your host a coward might not be the best way to gain any support for your expressed opinion. You still have my sympathies.

    If we are a family I guess you’re the black sheep.

    Everyone have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. Those who may be driving and venturing out this weekend, drive safely but cautiously.

    It’s time to put the movie “Train, Planes and Automobiles” on, which is a family favorite.

  61. FECKLESS FRUGIVORE

    KEYSFISH, have you seen the document produced on the Factcheck.org site ?

    appears to be a genuine certification of birth for obama. it has none of the “problems’ outlined on the several blogs which allege that the document previously released as a copy of his certification of birth by the obama campaign.
    if you haven’t already done so, go to factcheck.org, search obama certification then born in the USA. click on the photos offered in the left hand side more detailed pix.
    should be easily resolved when Alan Keyes’ suit comes up.

  62. Robb,

    From James to Wes to you..

    Typical liberal.

    Me a “coward”? That’s funny..really funny..Is that all that you have? Liberals..

    Name calling is that last vestige of the desperate mind. I am only surprised at how long it took you to resort to it.

    Your email, rosborne@weenet.com ..Is that real?

    Still laughing at that coward thing, God if you only knew..projection, thy name is Robb, if that is really your name..

    You have a Happy Thanksgiving anyway.

    Larry

  63. asthecrowflies

    something to read to your children, after putting the last piece of “government-Issued” wood on the fire.

    http://www.groundbreaking.com/Good_Sam/Rhyme003.htm

  64. I guess I’m not allowed to post here anymore. It looks like the criticizer can’t stand criticism. So much for speaking the truth in the comments here.

    I’m gone.

  65. Billsey,

    Your choice. You can comment anytime.

    I will email you with more details.

    Read it if you like, maybe then you might understand.

    If you think that you have been banned or something I will say this for the last time, LINKS and EXCESSIVE links causes WORDPRESS to step in.

    I try to check the file once a day.

    I can only guess. If you are gone, so be it.

    Larry

  66. Rubb!
    I know you are, but what am I?
    I know you are, but what am I?
    You’re so tough…
    You’re wife? or “partner”? Is he Neal, or Bob, or Neal-n-bob?
    I’ve been a conservative my entire life, always voted for Republicans.
    But this time, I voted for Obama.
    Do you believe me, Rubb??
    I think you’re full of shit when you say you supported McCain.

    Larry a coward??
    He posts his opinions on his own website for the entire world to see.
    His balls are on the table.
    Where are yours?? Firmly cupped in your “lovely” “wife’s” palm I bet.

    Amazing how looney liberals such as yourself all of sudden get all offending when someone calls them names.
    But when the liberals are DOING THE NAME CALLING….its all “free speech”.
    Go fuck yourself asshole, cause you aint fucking anyone on this site.

    Stick with your PC, politically correct, websites, because this site is completely UC – Unapologetically Conservative.
    BTW- you ASKED for a definition of socialism… and that is what you got….DUMBASS!
    Capitalism is only associated with Fascism in your own mind. I defy you to site a single definition that draws that parallel.

    STITCH!

  67. Billsey

    I think you’re an idiot.
    As author of my own WordPress site I can attest that TOO MANY FRICKEN LINKS in your comments gets your comment dumped into the SPAM bucket…..BY WORDPRESS!!!!
    WE have to go fish them out.
    Then check to see if they are indeed spam (most are), and then post those that are not.
    However, I think your comments so far have been just that, SPAM.
    Comment on the article.
    Comment on another commentor’s comment.
    But the shut the hell up about your off-topic remarks. Your damn “Numbers for Jesus” bullshit. And your general jibberish about crap WE DON’T CARE ABOUT.

    Read the title of this website… “NO LEFT TURNZ”…. “Conservative Commentary Served Cold”.
    We are raising an army of conservatives to wage the next war in 2012. We will knock liberals on their asses, and brush luke-warm conservatives like you aside.

    And just to keep Rubb happy, I have to call you a name…..Fathead.

    STITCH!

  68. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  69. Robb,

    Holy circular argument, Batman! Would you at least furnish viable statistics or data in your comments. Your comments are tiresome and as a self-proclaimed “patriotic” liberal, your thoughts are uninspirational to say the least.

    If you have taken the opportunities in trying to convert conservatives to the moderate or possibly the liberal way of thinking, you have chosen the wrong path. For we of the conservative mind are logical and of common sense. We react out on, and out of, reasoning, not indifferent emotion. You will find no converts here and probably less heed will be paid to your ridiculous statements as well.

    “Name calling”, an inherent liberal offensive/defensive tactic is not oft used by conservatives. However, you yourself are an example of the rebuff produced in liberals when the same tactic is used against them. Just in case your leaders haven’t told you, that’s the liberal’s sense of “fair play.” If justification can be made for it, there is one difference, conservatives will make remarks out of thought, not out of the liberal “knee jerk” emotional zombism.

    I’ll challenge you here a little by asking you to try commenting on Larry’s articles. One stipulation, the comments have to be intelligent.

  70. I hope all had a wonderful Thanksgiving….even those who gave us….not much to be Thankful for.
    My knee-jerk reaction is to jump in…but you all certainly put those “riding the fence” or those who “lost their way” in their appropriate place.
    I’ve decided that to attempt to convince a liberal mind by means of cognitive thought, common sense or just plain living through the history and learning something from it…is a waste of time.
    I’ve been convinced for some time that what ailes them is a “genetic defect” of sorts…for they are totally incapable of seeing past “the nose-hairs on their face.”
    I am sure I wasn’t alone in that we all faced the many “taboos” sitting around our Thanksgiving table. I had them all including a single “black man” and oh was I tempted to “pick his brain” and I honestly believe he has one. He has been places I could only imagine and came out on the other side….a better person for his trials. I decided that conversation was better left for another day….and I will have it. Our common ground is an “open mind” and “faith”….not a bad place to start.

  71. I got an email regarding the various suits that have been filed against Obama and his “Birth Certificate” where almost all the law suits that have been filed but the Judges assigned to the case dismissed them stating… “A lacked standing to bring the case to Court.” Can I ask who has the stating? I’m sure most of the suits dealt with stopping the electorates votes needed to be confirmed by the Secretary of State, in the States where the suits were filed. They are Pennsylvania, Washington (2 suits were filed, both were denied), Georgia, Ohio, Hawaii, Florida, Texas and California. From what I’ve learned most of the Judges appear to be liberals so I’m shocked that they dismissed these lawsuits, you would think they’d want clarification that the Democratic candidate is at least qualified to be President, seem his resume lack anything substantial or noteworthy.

    The reasons for these dismissals is that the public doesn’t have a right to demand the Secretary of State, demand from Obama the proof they needed in order to deem whether he qualifies to take office. The Secretary of State for each state is obligated to confirm the electorates votes, wouldn’t part of that obligation to request that each candidate show proof of their qualifications? Part of their job is to verify election results; wouldn’t that include any candidate’s qualifications?

    The second lawsuit filed in Washington demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, and MI. Now there are 24 potential Electoral College electors who are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof.

    The suit filed by Dr. Alan Keyes, Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr. and Markham Robinson has merit. Based on the information contend in this email Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake were actually on the ballot in California and Markham Robinson is an Elector for Keyes-Drake. If they don’t have standing, one would be hard-pressed to find ANYONE who has standing and if the court attempts to use the lack-of-standing argument, it’s an implied admission that NO ONE has standing to enforce the Constitution!

    Does anyone understand any of this or the retarded Judicial lame augments? If these elected officials represent “the people” aren’t we entitled under the Constitution to question any candidate’s qualifications but aren’t we also required to under the law? If there was nothing to hide he most likely would have released it. What he did release would never uphold in any State to get a Drivers License, because they need the Hospital and doctor stamp to verify the birth. At least they do here in Alabama, the DMV wouldn’t accept what he had on hand, and they needed the official stamp. I saw none of that on his “Certificate of Live Birth” did you?

    Somebody stated on one of the other blogs, it could have been Townhall, Human Events or the Heritage Foundation, I don’t know which and I have tried to find it again and cannot. That he spoke of an official, gave his name who works for the Hawaii Government who works for the Department who oversees the birth certificate office, who stated the location where Barack Obama was born shows he was born in Mombassa, Kenya. At least that the city of birth if I remember it correctly. It began with an “m” at least. Has any here seen or heard anything like this?

    Obama is trying so hard to hide his past and has blocked his school and college records from being released, with more threats of lawsuits. For someone to spend that type of money to block any information from being released to the press. No one in the mainstream media is requesting any “proof” it’s the public would wants it, and not just the Republicans, a lot of Democrats are as well. Clearly, these augments should have been brought up much earlier than towards the end of the election, but it doesn’t make any difference they still need to be answered. We are waiting Barack.

  72. Eileen… got the same email from Newsmax. It honestly seems that absolutely no one is qualified to question the obama, not even Sec’s of State. I will reprint an edited (removed all the give us money links) version here… also, this is in no way a suggestion or recommendation by me that anyone contribute to this cause. Just felt that it was important to share.

    Team Obama:”All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage.”
    ——————————————————————————–
    According to the WorldNetDaily headline above, that was the retort of an Obama campaign spokesperson when asked about complaints requesting that Senator Obama produce a valid Birth Certificate to prove that he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

    Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, “No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President.”

    The Constitution of the United States is NOT “garbage” and furthermore, securing the rights of the people under the Constitution is NOT “garbage”!

    The Obama campaign’s response is an elitist, condescending slap in the face to patriotic Americans. No one is above the law and Team Obama cannot make the question of Obama’s eligibility go away by disrespecting the American people – and, by inference, the Constitution of the United States.

    That’s why we just filed an action that Senator Obama will not be able to ignore… an action that WILL NOT GO AWAY!

    In fact, in my humble opinion… we will ONLY “LOSE” if we do NOT have the resources we need to carry on for as long as it takes, and we will “win” as long as we can carry on this fight (more on that later).

    The Obama campaign has a crack team of high-priced law firms – that’s not three lawyers but THREE LAW FIRMS – that will use every means that money can buy to fight this action. We’re relying on you and patriotic Americans like you.

    Why The “Berg Case” Is Dead In The Water And Why USJF Will Succeed…

    You probably already know that Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg filed a suit in U.S. District Court several months back contending that Senator Obama is not a “natural-born” citizen.

    And you probably already know that the court dismissed the suit claiming that Berg, as a private citizen, “lacked standing to bring the case.”

    Of course, Berg is not the only one who has filed an action and the “Berg Case” is not the only one in which the courts have relied upon the lack-of-standing technicality.

    Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter denied an action saying to the plaintiff Rev. Tom Terry, “I don’t think you have standing to bring this suit.”

    Washington State Superior Court Judge John Erlick dismissed yet another suit ruling that even the Secretary of State did not have authority to inquire about Senator Obama’s birth certificate.

    Can you believe it? What’s going on? Well, perhaps Berg said it best;

    “This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don’t have standing, if you don’t have standing, if your neighbor doesn’t have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be president of the United States – the commander in chief, the most powerful person in the world – then who does?”

    Of course, Berg’s statement also illustrates why the “Berg Case” and some of these other actions are doomed to fail and why we believe our action WILL succeed!

    Simply stated, the lack-of-standing argument is already out there. Yes, it’s egregious but the all too sad reality is that judges will continue to grab onto it like a life-preserver now that it has been put into play… the die has been cast!

    That’s why USJF is taking a different approach. Our petitioners are Dr. Alan Keyes, Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr. and Markham Robinson!

    We state in the Petition we just filed with the court:

    “The parties in this case have standing to bring this litigation, due to the fact that Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake, Sr., are candidates on the California ballot for President and Vice President of the United States, and Mr. Robinson is an Elector for the Keyes-Drake ticket, and Vice Chairman of America’s Independent Party, of Fenton, Michigan, which nominated Dr. Keyes for President. He is also a Chairman of the American Independent Party (California), which nominated Dr. Keyes and Dr. Drake for President and Vice President, respectively. Based on the foregoing, it is imperative for SOS to be provided proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen.”

    Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake were actually on the ballot in California and Markham Robinson is an Elector for Keyes-Drake. If they don’t have standing, one would be hard-pressed to find ANYONE who has standing and if the court attempts to use the lack-of-standing argument, it’s an implied admission that NO ONE has standing to enforce the Constitution!

    The Usurper-in-Chief…

    Now… a dose of reality. Frankly, a case of this magnitude could be in the courts for years. There are no quick solutions… BUT THAT’S OKAY.

    The key is in the following statement which also appears in the Petition:

    “Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.”

    Part of that statement bears repeating:

    “… none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.”

    In other words, as long as this case is in the courts, a cloud hangs over Senator Obama’s head and for the sake of our Constitution and our Republic, the issue MUST be resolved!

    If President Obama issues an Executive Order to rescind the Mexico City Policy and allows the tax dollars of Americans to fund organizations that promote abortions overseas, the door to question the legitimacy of that Executive Order remains open.

    If President Obama signs a treaty with an unfriendly power or an agreement with the United Nations, the door to question the legitimacy of that treaty remains open.

    If President Obama signs a bill granting amnesty to illegal aliens into law, the door to question the legitimacy of that law remains open.

    If President Obama appoints new Commissioners to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) who bring back the so-called Fairness Doctrine, the door to question those appointments and the legitimacy of the actions taken by his appointees remains open.

    That’s not to say that he can’t or won’t be able to fulfill the duties of his office, but until this matter is resolved… until he can validate that he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States, the door will always remain open to question and challenge the legitimacy of his actions and the dire consequences of those actions.

    In short… as long as we have the resources to fight, we’re ahead of the game!

    I’m Not Living In The Real World…

    To be brutally blunt, a case of this magnitude may not be won or lost on the merits.

    I’m very proud of USJF’s accomplishments over the past 29 years.

    We’ve defended Minuteman Civil Defense Corps members protecting our borders from illegal aliens.

    We handled litigation against Hillary Clinton for campaign finance fraud in her 2000 Senate race.

    We’ve submitted testimony before the United States Senate on Supreme Court appointees.

    But all that won’t really matter. It won’t matter which side has the most skilled attorneys. Talent, competence and experience do not assure victory.

    Here’s the bottom line.

    Team Obama presently has THREE LAW FIRMS at its disposal – and a seemingly unlimited ability to raise funds from the far-left for more legal help.

    This potentially translates to hundreds of attorneys and law clerks who can literally throw paperwork at us until we crack under the sheer pressure and cry uncle.

    Team Obama WILL try to wear us down (which by the way is yet another reason why the “Berg Case” and many of the others – as mentioned earlier – are doomed to fail and why we CAN get the job done).

    They’ll stall and delay and throw paperwork at us so fast, so furiously and for so long… then they’ll wait for us to break under the strain and give up. Or so they think…

    Team Obama doesn’t fear our skill or the merits of our case.

    The ONLY THING THEY FEAR IS YOU!

    They hope and pray that you will not support our efforts or that you will grow tired of the fight. What they fear most is that you will join us and support our efforts!

    They know that if you support us, we’ll have the ability to take on additional clerical and research staff, cover court fees, file briefs and take on outside counsel on an as-needed basis.

    That’s why they’re praying you don’t help us… but we’re praying that you do!

    USJF wasn’t approached by a group of hot-shot movers and shakers. We took on this burden because like you we love this great country and we REFUSE to stand idly by while the Left disrespects the Constitution, the American people and our electoral process.

    USJF is a nonprofit public interest, legal action organization. We go where others fear to tread. We’re adept at taking on vastly superior forces. And we’re committed to hitting the trenches on this one and willing to get bloody if we must.

    That’s our promise to you.

    But, in the end, our commitment and our “pit-bull” determination doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.

    Winning or losing is NOT in our control… and it’s not in Team Obama’s control… IT’S IN YOUR HANDS!

    A lot of folks are very angry over Barack Obama’s refusal to validate his eligibility to be President of the United States.

    Is it worth a TAX DEDUCTIBLE effort of $5000 or $2500 or even $100 or $50 or $25 to defend the Constitution, the rights of Patriotic Americans under the Constitution and the integrity of our electoral process?

    Is it worth forwarding this e-mail to your family and friends with a personal note asking them to join the fight?

    The choice is now up to you.

    The Obama campaign has a crack team of high-priced law firms – that’s not three lawyers but THREE LAW FIRMS – that will use every means that money can buy to fight this action. We’re relying on you and patriotic Americans like you.

    In His Service

    Gary Kreep, Executive Director
    United States Justice Foundation

  73. I still don’t understand their augment that citizens don’t have the right to question the validity of their elected officials. Doesn’t the Constitution provide us the right to ask questions?

  74. oh please, once in office Obama will forge as many birth certificates as it takes to make this issue go away.
    As corrupt as HE has been, as corrupt as all of his appointees have been, and as corrupt as the Democratic party has always been, this “birth certificate” issue will go away.
    That said, we should still fight it. At least get some of the “independent” voters to shy away from him.
    The 2012 election is already begun. Let’s get a head start.
    Obama plans to open the borders to all immigrants, especially Mexican and other Latin Americans. He plans to flood the “red” states along the border, especially Texas, with millions of hispanic voters. Once inside the US, he will give them all free homes, free food, free medical, a drivers license, and a voter registration form.
    Then he will make sure they know that it is the Republicans that are trying to keep them out.
    This asswipe is already planning to stack the deck against the Republicans in 2012.
    We need to get started.
    Start opening those “homeless shelters” in small towns all over America.
    Start registering all those homeless conservatives out there wandering the countryside.
    If homelessness is as bad as the liberals say it is, then we should have no problem getting towns of 300 people to register 1000-10,000 homeless people.
    And since those towns are 99% Republican, it stands to reason that the homeless people will reflect their community.

    the fight is upon us…
    STITCH!

  75. I fail to understand why the RNC visa vis…McCain/Palin didn’t file suit on behalf of the millions of disenfranchised voters?
    Again…what scares me the most is if this issue is allowed to go unresolved…what happens to the rest of our Constitution? What presidence (sp?), no pun intended, will be set for future candidates should it be discovered that he is not qualified?
    This is a huge question folks!
    The Supreme Court is suppose to take up Berg’s Writ of Certerori on December 5th….maybe there is still hope. Again I think I shall pray for “divine intervention”…surely GOD has stature on behalf of all of us.

  76. Eileen, Stitch, Rayne… mind boggling is it not? The question exists, this is a non-disputed fact. How easy it would be to make us all go away… just produce the real document and I will never bring it up again. He has already forged documents… he can not produce a true one.

  77. “Tell a lie, make it a big lie, tell it often and they will believe you.” — Adolph Hitler.

    “Hope” is probably the closest thing to truth Obama’s campaign came to the plight of America’s people. Not to those he specifically set out to appeal to, but for all of us in general. For it is only hope that we now have to righting this country on an even keel. After the majority lackidasicialy rested, not taking interest, not voting, letting the guiding moral compass steadily run off course. It will take hard, honest work from all the citizenry of America who believe in and love their country.

    We know that powers vested unto a man’s or a man of himself alone cannot preside over this country or it’s government. Obama’s “Change” or “New Beginning” is proving to be a ruse before he takes office. He is surrounding himself with crucial “Advisors” from a former administration of twenty years ago. An admistration that did not work well then and is responsibile for the current economic crisis we now find ourselves in.

    In Obama’s “Spreading the Wealth”, he is simply telling a ‘bigger lie’ than the Democratic party has been the minorities and poor for decades. These are the people that are interested in, “What can the government do for me.” This country was set with the ideals that a man’s labors need not be taken away from him in order that another man live better, a man who had not labored to earn it. Oabma, with a law schooled, socialistic ideology orientated mind, would find it even easier to sway to ignorant minions towards his and or the Democratic party’s depotism.

    One of Obama’s biggest stumbling blocks, other than his inexperience, will be the very thing that he used for his benefit in defeating John McaCain. Obama being the “first black president” (first multi-racial president is accurate) will have all eyes upon him as he tries to implement his policies. Pehaps we are in store for even bigger lies to come from Obama, promoted by the slobberingly adoring, left mass media.

  78. True, Redbone, but expect the next forged document to come complete with Presidential Seal and all.
    Clinton committed perjury, no one in the media blinked.
    Documents stolen, again the media snoozed.
    I think once this imbecile takes office, all the “proof” the media needs will be all over the news.

    Windrider
    This may be the one place we can make a difference. These people lie. They have always lied. And they will continue to lie.
    This is where we can get them.
    95% of blacks voted for him and I expect they will again in 2012.
    We need to focus on all the non-party people who drank the kool-aid and voted for this liar.
    The lies are already being told.
    Every appointee is a lie against his “change” policy.
    Every day we have soldiers in Iraq is a lie against his “bring them home on day one” policy.
    Every day we middle-classers don’t get our tax cut is a lie against his policy.
    Every day he doesn’t tax the 1 million rich people enough to cover his $1.4 Trillion in new spending is another lie.

    STITCH!

  79. Stitch,

    We agree that the “spreading of wealth” of lying has already begun. But another thing I don’t believe Obama has yet to grasp is the concept of trust.

    He must have the trust of ALL the people to gain anything. Lying, no matter how grand the rhetoric, will eventually awaken even the most enamored of his followers. Without creating more lies the “show me” liberals are going to see the non-results of his promised policies.

    An interesting item in the paper yesterday about “Black Friday” and the shoppers turning out in force. As a side note the reporter had gone to gun shops where they are doing a booming business this year. The owners said that business actually had started picking up when it looked as though Obama would win the election. Citizens began buying, for fear that Obama, once elected, would pass legislation making it illegal to purchase weapons and/or raise taxes on ammunition to historic amounts.

    This is not a sign of trust in your president or your government for that matter.

  80. Perhaps ol’ Robb prefers a definition of socialism from Sir Winston Churchill?

    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
    – Winston Churchill

    STITCH!

  81. Winston Churchill expands upon that in your face truism a little further by saying;

    “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”

    I do wonder what Robb will bequeath his children when he passes. The lock to the bathroom door of what was once his home that he’d hidden away from the NOPEs? (National Obama Police Enforcement)

  82. JR NOT OF DALLAS

    ROPE A DOPE
    HOPE OF NOPE
    Ilike that definition of NOPE
    Larry;
    I wonder when your site will compete
    with ANN COULTER takes time
    Her blog gets comments in the thousands.
    You will join her someday
    Changed my name as it was to easy to find me in my home town Gotta watch out for the NOPE

  83. JR,

    I “compete” with Ann every day. She has an amazing head start.

    She is also an incredible writer.

    She gets 4,000 to sometimes 6,000 comments PER ARTICLE.

    ALOT of them are absolute rubbish.

    There are some incredibly insightful comments there as well.

    Then again, it’s not really a “competetion”..

    In the arena of ideas, too much is never enough.

    Everyone looks at an issue differently, not just liberal and conservative, but liberal to liberal and conservative to conservative.

    I feel that there is PLENTY of room for others to “compete”..Those at Human Events and others feel differently.

    I keep trying to find new readers/subscribers. It’s more time consuming than the research/writing of articles.

    That’s why I will periodically ask for the help of readers in this area. I know that everyone is as busy as I am and I appreciate any help that I get.

    Maybe someday..

    Thanks as always,

    Larry

  84. FDR’s New Deal policiesdidn’t go far enough, thus the Great Depression earned it’s name. Had they been more stringent there would have been a depression without the significance of having been “great.”

    FDR declared a week long bank holiday when starting the New Deal and Obama may have to do the same only invisibly. There are a long list of bailout recipients should the government choose to favor with their (yours and mine) money. There are estimates of deficits up to or exceeding $1.5 trillion dollars in 2009 and beyond. These measures will only (hopefully) stabilize the market, but not make it grow. Worse yet is the government’s involvement with the interventionalism of regulations in free enterprise. A move towards socialism.

    To my way of thinking, America can end this current crisis but not with Obama and Democrats in power.

    We must establish a stable long-term monetary policy, with neither easy money or tight money. With the federal government adopting an “in between” monetary policy, a steady monetary rule that stabilizes the price of gold.

    We should pass a flat tax. A flat tax that becomes permanent and dependable.

    We must adopt fair and just rules of the game so that business and financial institutions can make long-term plans for success. I realize that “fair and just” is not in the Democrats vocabulary. However, with the aid of interpretors or Rossetta it could be possible to introduce them to the concept.

    And finally, adopt an open and non-interventionist foreign policy.

    “Little else is required to carry a state to the highest degree of opulenc from the lowest barbarism, but peace, easy taxes, and a tolerable sense of government.”
    — John Adams

  85. Stitch, Windrider… I doubt nothing and expect only the worst these people can give. With y’all and ready. The obama is false plain and simple until I am proved incorrect. We must start building for the future as the essence of our constitution is at stake.

  86. I have despised politics my whole life because of the corruption, the missing truths, power plays, campaign promises that will never become a reality, they’re lying and political cover-ups. A lot has happened and I’m not that old, but the treachery and the evilness of the Republicans for not caring about what’s best for the public, always seemed to be what was hammered into my head and others by the media, some teachers and speeches made and widely covered by the Democratic candidate so he/she could get elected. Once inside the hollow halls in the Capitol Building their actions didn’t match their campaign rhetoric. The media covered it up or down played the lies and promises that were broken, to shift focus onto whatever republican may have caught the media’s eye for burping in public or peeing on the toilet seat.
    I don’t think we can ever have an honest election until the media is forced to talk about the realities, accurate facts instead of spreading their socialist agenda. Let’s face the facts they’ve been promoting it since the early 70’s, with their profiles of the happy people of China and Russia, making documentaries to spread this misinformation. I didn’t understand why all those Great Russian dancers and Olympic athletes would want to leave such a wonderful country. It seemed almost weekly some Russian, Romanian, Polish or Czech Republic was high tailing it the hell out of their Country to embrace ours, and our government welcomed them with open arms.
    I guess the first one to defect from a Soviet country was Rudolf Nureyev. Soon many followed to gain their freedom from Natalia Makarova, Mikhail Baryshnikov, and Alexander Godunov. They took chances to defect from their home; many were considered elites because of their gifts. So, if it was bad for the elites in a communist country, it must be really bad for the rest of them. It took a Hollywood movie to start me questioning what the hell was going on. Remember the film “Moscow on the Hudson” starring Robin Williams, Maria Conchita Alonso and Elya Baskin. Maria and Elya were both born and raised in Communist Country’s; Ms Alonso was born in Cuba and raised in Caracas, Venezuela, who’s been an outspoken activist against both communist dictators and spoke out against Barack Obama as President by trying to explain to the American public what life is like in a Socialist Country. The only network who gave her a platform to explain the dangers of Socialism was Fox News. Her insight to a life in a socialist country was important for all Americans, not just those who watch Fox News.
    Anyway, at the time of those who defected; the media explained it was for “creative reasons”, not because of government and communist policies. You couldn’t wipe your ass unless you asked permission, I think was a quote from Alexander Godunov in an interview I read in the early 80’s but spoke about the loss of his wife, who choose not to defect. Eventually, a large amount of Olympic athletes living under communist control started to follow the dancers who earned for a better life. In addition to the Soviet Union, they left Cuba, Romania, Czech Republic, East Germany and China, and the athletes were skaters, gymnastics and runners.
    They all used their gifts to try and find a better life, and those who are still alive backed John McCain. Gee, I wonder why? Could it be they didn’t think living in a socialist state was the best life? The media didn’t record their warnings of what our life would become. They knew and the American media wouldn’t give them the mic and kept them silent.
    As long as the media refuses to report accurate facts, conservatives and the Republican Party will never receive equal “positive” time. There’s a reason so many foreigners are coming here, most to build a better life or to obtain jobs that their own home Country’s don’t have, and I highly doubt it’s to escape a socialist country and enter another one.
    While laying in a hospital bed and watching one of the debates with an older African-American woman, the lack of truthfulness became evident as one of the questions asked of Obama revolved around job pay. John McCain had an opportunity to put him on the spot about the salaries of his own staff are tilled toward men. On Obama’s staff women make much less, it averages to be about .83 cent to a dollar, McCain actually pays his female staffers more than the men. I knew this fact, my convalescing neighbor did not, and she was shocked especially based on his answer to the question. She wanted to know where I got that information and I told her where, FoxNews and she smirked and told me that information that comes out of the cable channel is unreliable. Really? What makes you think that? Everybody knows they lean to the conservative base. I said so what does that make ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC? Do you considered them all fair and balanced in their news gathering and reporting? We had a civil debate over reliable media. As one of her family members came in and the debate continued to which her sister said she would look into it. She did and said I was right and she even brought the article with her to show it to her sister. She apologized and I have to admit I did enjoy being proven right.
    I was angrier at McCain for not highlight was a hypocrite Obama was, he had a golden opportunity to question his briefs but doesn’t follow them himself.
    While sitting in the bed I had a revelation to what to try and change how the media covers everything with a slant toward misinformation about everything. I looked at two government insiders who were accused of corruption and how it was covered in the media. I choose Sandy Berger and Scooter Libby. Sandy Berger was accused of stealing classified documents from the National Achieves to either hide his or Bill Clinton’s or both’s involvement into 9/11. He was Bill Clinton’s National Security adviser on foreign policy; who was probably the same person who told him to do nothing while our American Embassies were attacked and hundreds were killed. I’m sure he’ll poke his head in every now and then since he was also Hillary’s foreign policy advisor during her campaign, and now that she’s the Secretary of State she will invite him to visit her whenever he’s got an opening. I dug up some information about him that I don’t remember the press covering it.
    Possible items shoved down the front of his pants could have been his and Clinton’s in an agreement with Saudi ruler when CIA Director George Tenet and other top CIA officials travel to Saudi Arabia to meet with Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, the de facto ruler of the country. Tenet wants Abdullah to address the problem of bin Laden. He requests that bin Laden not be given to the US to be put on trial but that he be given to the Saudis instead. Abdullah agrees as long as it can be a secret arrangement. Tenet sends a memo to National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, recommending that the CIA allow the Saudis to essentially bribe the Taliban to turn him over. Around the same time, Tenet cancels the CIA’s own operation to get bin Laden. That same month, Wyche Fowler, the US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, tells Berger to let the Saudis take the lead against bin Laden. Prince Turki al-Faisal, the head of Saudi intelligence, does go to Afghanistan in June and/or July of 1998 to make a secret deal, though with whom he meets and what is agreed upon is highly disputed.
    I am sure some sleazy deal was made between the Saudis and the Clinton Administration regarding Osama bin Laden capture or lack there of, which would come out eventually during the investigation into the events that lead to 9/11. All Clinton’s tough talk regarding bid Laden was to show America that he cared about safety, while behind the scene Albright and Berger were trying to “negotiate” with the evil one and some idiot in his administration probably put it on paper.
    As a lawyer he pleaded down to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. Berger was fined $50,000 and sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for 3 years. Berger also relinquished his license to practice law. Community Service let’s hope his not the janitor at the National Archives.
    I tried to find any articles that didn’t downplay the seriousness of what he did, it was hard but I found a few that did. About 3% spoke of the seriousness, the remaining 97% downplayed it.

    Now onto Irve Lewis “Scooter” Libby was a former Assistant to President Bush, Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs, serving from 2001 to 2005 as well as his chief of staff. Libby resigned all three government positions immediately after he was indicted on federal charges of obstruction and perjury resulting from the grand jury investigation into the leak of the covert identity of Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame. Libby was convicted on four of the five counts in the indictment: one count of obstruction of justice; two counts of perjury; and one count of making false statements to federal investigators. This case I never fully understood and I do know the details.
    Conservative Columnist for the Washington Post Robert Novak’s publicly disclosure of Mrs. Wilson’s then-still-classified covert CIA identity as “Valerie Plame” precipitated what is known as the Plame affair, leading to the CIA leak grand jury investigation, which resulted in the indictment, conviction and commuted sentence by I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby in United States v. Libby on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to federal investigators.
    Personally, I think this was all about disgracing President Bush, considering that her husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, stated in various interviews and subsequent writings (as listed in his 2004 memoir The Politics of Truth) that members of President George W. Bush’s administration revealed Mrs. Wilson’s covert status as retribution for his op-ed entitled “What I Didn’t Find in Africa,” published in The New York Times.
    From the get-go I don’t believe the Wilson’s weren’t big fans of President Bush, they set out to embarrass him on the World stage and the press gave them every opportunity to do so. As a high-level CIA operative she sends her own husband to investigate the possible purchase that the Iraqi might have made to buy yellowcake uranium in 2002. They insisted that the intelligence was wrong and Bush didn’t care and forged ahead with his commit to the war with Iraq.
    I wasn’t paying much attention to the White House events after 9/11, I had friends, co-workers and former co-workers who worked in the Twin Towers who left their local jobs to earn larger salaries for Morgan Stanley and others alike. All were gone. One co-worker lost her best friend. The company I worked for at the time had many family members who worked in the Buildings or near it. Everyone was in a panic trying to reach their loved ones. I’d say for a good 2 months or more we were catatonic and trying to understand why and how this was allowed to happen. Our Company immediately started to organize money to help out the families who lost a love one, money to help the firefighters who were digging out there friends and colleagues, and we set off to bake and cook their meals and provide the needed fluid they would need to continue. The final total are company gave was $500,000. Employees raised $250,000 locally and the company said they would match whatever we gave. I wouldn’t go into the City (I never returned to NYC after that) and those who did wish they hadn’t, the women who went to help serve the food told us the smell of death was so horrible that they cried the entire time. They usually went once and never went again.
    I have a friend who works in the DC area, whose husband is an FBI agent. It was the same chaos as it was in NYC and just as destructive and devastating. She too lost friends and colleagues.
    What I do remember that Bush went to the UN to get support and approval to start a war with Iraq. They haggled for weeks as the US Congress approved the measure, but the UN refused. Don’t you think during all that time, all those weeks, we gave Saddam Hussein the time he needed to remove his weapon’s of mass destruction someplace else, possibly a neighboring country who also hated America. Now there’s a thought. Never heard anyone in the media point that out, where’s Dan Rather when you need him.
    The experiment only showed 100% negative press against Scooter Libby (and George Bush) compared to the downplaying of Sandy Berger. The presiding trial judge, Reggie B. Walton, sentenced Libby to 30 months in federal prison, a fine of $ 250,000, and two years of supervised release, including 400 hours of community service, George Bush did commute his sentence of 30 months but he still needs to fulfill the remaining sentence.
    Honestly, I still believe Sandy Berger did more damage but the media downplayed the whole thing, whereas they played up the Scooter Libby trial and the events that unfolded because of a story written by a conservative writer about events that took place in Nigeria and weapons of mass destruction and a CIA Operative who sent her husband to investigate the President of the United States.
    If I’ve gotten anything wrong, accept my apologies in advance. What I would like to do is form an organization that will put pressure on Congress to force them to pass laws for fairness, accuracy and balanced coverage in the media, both written and television. Anyone interested in helping me?

    PS: I also adore Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham, two very smart ladies and with an eye for exposing the truth.

  87. EILEEN,

    I agree that all politicians can rearrange the truth. The rearrangment is generally to their advantage also rather than ours, the people he represents. What we, in everyday language, would call being a liar.

    Lying is inherent to politicians and to both political partys, Republican and Democrat. We all know they woo the prospective voters with promises in order to be elected, but most have no intention of keeping, let alone remembering them.

    While the Republican party had a more stringent mooring, it has steadily slipped away from that in the last three decades. The Democrats, however, were always gifted in the use of falsehoods and never shyed away from their use. Still the government as it is being run today, you have a sense that both parties have the same end means. The difference being with the lies is the Democratic Autobahn or the Republican two lane hi-way in reaching the same destination.

    Of your question about action on the mass media, there is a man by the name of John Zeigler who has started just such a campaign.

    http://www.howobamagotelected.com

    The clip is also on YouTube.

  88. Eileen… I agree that we have to find a way to force the media to tell the truth. But this congress is NOT the one to write a law. We already are having to fight the “Fairness Doctrine” which usess the exact words you are using to silence and muzzle conservative talk radio. What we need is another avenue to get to the network executives and editors and force their hand. It will have to create a financial penalty (lost revenues) or something similar. We do NOT want the government involved with this.

    A boycott will not really work, because the advertizers are not to blame, but we have to come up with something to force their hand. Enough is enough!

    BTW… I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving Holiday.

  89. Off topic but still important. I am a member of NumberUSA organization who provides an avenue to contact your representatives by the various methods available. They provide the phone and fax numbers to assist you in contacting them and even provide the documentation to help give those who lack the writing skills that would leave a greater impact on your representatives. They are asking for assistance now with John McCain, who is working with Senator Harry Reid to pass new legislation for both an Illegal Immigration and Amnesty Reforms bills when the new democratic controlled Congress convenes in January.

    Please sign up and fax away to stop them from creating a new reality for an American life. I joined them when the first bill was put forth by McCain/Kennedy Bill. It works, and it’s simple and easy to use. Here’s the internet address http://www.numbersusa.com/content/. Please sign up and help stop this cause the democrats want to create a monopoly in Congress for life. It’s very important to the sovereignty of our lives. If you are already a member here is the bullet site. http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet It does have a great impact because I am constantly receiving replies from both Senator’s and our House Representatives, and they provide you with the locations of public Townhall’s, which I have attended this summer.

    If anyone wants more information you can personally email me at irisheyes2c@juno.com or view the letter I sent to my reps.

    I urge you to join and leave an impact on your thoughts so Congress can hear you loud and clear.

    Thank you for your time and consideration.

    Eileen

  90. I cannot believe what I’m reading today. Have y’all seen anthing on Illinois Gov. Blagojevich “selling” Obama’s Senate Seat? Check this out:
    .

    How insane is it that this guy is under arrest for doing pretty much the SAME THING that BO did to get the very same senate seat?!?

    OMG — I think I’ve landed in the Twilight Zone for real this time.

  91. Oops. The link didn’t come through.

    Try a cut-and-paste with this:

    http://tinyurl.com/5rp46c

  92. actualintelligence

    I’v got more acronyms for Blagojevich, the one all his aides are thinking right now. OMFGTARFUN!!!!!! Maybe Almighty BO will really get nailed for this one, heres hoping

  93. Just a comment from a Canadian who used to be a Division Registrar (now retired) for births and deaths in the Province of Ontario.

    The only “official” ducument that I have seen regarding Mr. Obama’s birth is a certified (apparently) copy of a Statement of Live Birth. I don’t know how similar out systems are, but in Ontario, a Statement of Live Birth is NOT the same as a Birth Cerificate.

    I signed one Statement of Live Birth that I know is misleading. I know for a fact that the baby was born in my municipality, but we have no doctor and no hospital and it can only be a doctor that generates the Statement. The Statement that I signed indicates that the baby was born in a town outside my municipality, which is incorrect, but quite legal in the sense that it was generated by the first doctor that examined the baby. That town was only 12 miles away, but it could just as easily have been 120, 1,200 or 12,000 miles away. I would still have signed it – it has to come from a doctor. I did not have the power to generate it myself.

    Now what the baby’s Birth Certificate might say as to her place of birth and how the Certificate of Live Birth may affect that, I don’t know – it’s the Regstrar General of Ontario that issues Birth Certificates, not a local Division Registrar. All I do know is that the Certificate of Live Birth is inaccurate in terms of the baby’s place of birth.

    The State of Hawaii was only 2 years old when Mr. Obabma was born and I understand that they were at the time issuing Birth Certifcates in huge volumes for their freshly minted U.S. citizens.

    I am not even remotely suggsesting that Mr. Obama may not have been born in Hawaii in spite of his grandmother’s alleged public statement to the contrary (in fact I would have given little credence to anything my own mother said at that age). But I have to wonder why he doesn’t simply produce his Birth Certificate (not a Statement of Live Birth) and put a quick end to all this right-wing sniping.

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